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Points on Provisional Licence: Can Full Licence Be Issued?

By: Sally Aquire - Updated: 30 Oct 2018 | comments*Discuss
 
Driving Driving Licence Penalty Points

Q.

I am a driving instructor and have a new pupil who has points on his licence for driving without insurance. Can he still gain his full licence by passing the test or will his licence be revoked? I am some what confused with different information.

(J.T, 28 May 2009)

A.

Many are worried that they will not be issued with their full driving licence after passing their practical driving test if they have already clocked up at least six penalty points beforehand. Is this really the case?

The New Drivers Act

Under the New Drivers Act, if you receive six or more penalty points on your driving licence in the first two years after you pass your practical driving test you will have your licence revoked . This means after a period of disqualification you will have to re-apply for your provisional driving licence, and pass the theory and practical driving tests again.

Points Received Before Passing the Practical Driving Test

Any penalty points that you clock up before passing your first practical driving test will have an effect on your driving licence. However, this does not automatically mean that you will not receive your full driving licence if you have already got six or fewer penalty points on your driving licence at this point.

If you go on to receive an six or more penalty points in the two years after passing your practical driving test, your driving licence will then be taken away from you. Be aware that the penalty points will remain on your driving licence, even though they may not affect the number of points that you are still 'allowed' to receive before losing your practical driving test.

Sitting Your Practical Driving Test Again

If you are re-taking your Practical Driving Test because you have accumulated too many penalty points in the first two years as a new driver, the penalty points that you have already notched up do not carry over as such as you are once again subject to the New Drivers Act rules. They do however remain on your driving licence though until they have expired. Although it varies depending on the motoring offence for which you received the penalty points, this will usually take a minimum of four years. For serious motoring offences, it can take as long as eleven years for the penalty points to expire.

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i got pulled over by the police i stupidy drove my car without insurance and on a provisional license...what will my penalty be, police said ill be looking at a fine and 3-6 points, iv read that i can still obtain a full license having points on my provisional ..i have my test in a few weeks will i have my license revoked if i pass my practical test
pb1986 - 30-Oct-18 @ 8:00 PM
I got 9 points on my Motor cycle but not a single point on my car driving licence what's going to happened if I will get 12 point ? do I need to wait for some time ? .. or start again from theory test and then do the practical test. Please reply ASAP. Thanks,
Altaf - 13-Oct-18 @ 4:20 PM
Hi. I was stupidly driving with no licence or insurance on a public road. I were stopped by a police officer. I’ve just passed my driving test & now I’ve received 8 points for thee offenceabove. Does that mean i have lost my current driving licence for the offence that happened before i passed my test? because I’ve not had it two years? Or are they provisional points? Please help... confused is an understatement.
Corby24 - 22-Aug-18 @ 7:23 PM
hi My son is 16 in 42 days im applying for his provisional but the thing is hes stupidly got 6 points points on his licence will he still be able to take the cbt and ride a 50cc mopedor will he have it revoked . he got the points befor he is going to be taking his cbt ? thanks
vikster - 20-Aug-18 @ 10:47 PM
Hi i received 8 points on my provisional I was usen a motor vehicle on road public place without third party insurance I received a letter from the court I when guilty straight away I received a fine £295.95 which I'm gona pay off I had my driving test last week I whent I fail my test I booked driving test will I able to pass the test I'm sure some web site on google say 8 points you can go for your test. I not done no dangerous driving I stoped when the police told me told them the truth the car wasn't taken off me because my misses was insured on it she only got 8 point on her license and £200 fine she had her driving license 9 years now she let me drive what will happen
Harry - 29-Jul-18 @ 6:09 PM
My son got caught for speeding doing 52mph in a 30 limit about 4 months ago, this was on a motorbike on a provisional licence.He passed his driving test 6 weeks ago and now has a full licence. He has just received a court summons about the speeding offence. If he gets 6 points does this mean he will lose his licence even though the offence happened on a provisional before he passed his test?
Rob connors - 27-Jul-18 @ 3:10 PM
I've recently been caught speeding on a motorbike (under 125cc as I have a provisional licence only) at 41 mph in a 30, just came off a 40 and didn't clock the change, I've received the penalty notice and it says on the back a minimum of 6 penalty points and a maximum fine of £1000. My sister called up for me though to check as the wording was awful and the woman said £100 fine and 3 points. Is it more because I was doing 41? If so does that mean I'd automatically get 6 points and lose my provisional? If so am I best going to court to try and apologise? I really need my own transport as my mother's disabled and I'm doing a college course I have to get myself to. Thanks in advance!
Bike2000 - 9-Jul-18 @ 1:56 PM
Dom - Your Question:
Held a Bike license just under 2 years, started my driving lessons and got stopped by police (was driving on my own on provisional car license) car was insured in my name, they didn't take my car. I went on to do my test 2 days after and passed 1st time with 2 minors so now the question is will I loose my license? If I do will I loose both car and bike? Or still going to be ok? They did mention that I'm looking at 6 points but wasn't to clear. Thanks

Our Response:
If you are given 6 points on your provisional licence they will be transferred to your full licence and remain valid until they expire. Any further offence in the two years after the pass date will result in revocation of your licence.
YourDrivingLicence - 22-Jun-18 @ 12:48 PM
Held a Bike license just under 2 years, started my driving lessons and got stopped by police (was driving on my own on provisional car license) car was insured in my name, they didn't take my car. I went on to do my test 2 days after and passed 1st time with 2 minors so now the question is will i loose my license? If i do will i loose both car and bike? Or still going to be ok? They did mention that I'm looking at 6 points but wasn't to clear. Thanks
Dom - 21-Jun-18 @ 2:18 PM
Driver2018 - Your Question:
Need advice, held a motorcycle licence for over 4 years gathered 6 points on that just before I passed my driving test, now passed my test have been driving 6 months and think I might have got another 3 points am I going to lose my licence? Or have I got another 6 points before I lose it? Much appreciated

Our Response:
If you obtain 6 points or more points before you have taken your test you can still pass your test and obtain your licence, but if you obtain any more points within 2 years of passing your test, your licence will be revoked.
YourDrivingLicence - 12-Jun-18 @ 1:36 PM
Need advice, held a motorcycle licence for over 4 years gathered 6 points on that just before i passed my driving test, now passed my test have been driving 6 months and think i might have got another 3 points am i going to lose my licence? Or have i got another 6 points before i lose it? Much appreciated
Driver2018 - 9-Jun-18 @ 12:35 PM
Hi I have just been given 8points, I don’t hold a provisional licence I was wondering would I get a ban if I got a provisional and went for my driving licence
Ste - 5-Jun-18 @ 7:34 PM
I already had 5 points and I just got a ticket for going 20 over in a school zone which i think gives me 5 more adding up to 10 points. I have a provisional license and I have court for this ticket in a month, will I be losing my license or what will happen? I have no idea what to expect please help
Enad - 30-May-18 @ 8:16 AM
Shannon- Your Question:
Hi I received 8 points on my provisional licence in July 2017 for no licence or insurance and I've just re-sat my theory and due to do my first practical in 2 weeks. If I pass and get my full licence will I automatically be banned due to having more than 6 points or will I still be able to drive?

Our Response:
Unless otherwise directed by the courts, the general rule is that any penalty points on a provisional licence that haven’t expired will be carried over to the full licence when the test is passed. The licence will be revoked however, if any FURTHER points are added within the first two years of gaining the full licence.
YourDrivingLicence - 29-May-18 @ 3:22 PM
Hi I received 8 points on my provisional licence in July 2017 for no licence or insurance and I've just re-sat my theory and due to do my first practical in 2 weeks. If I pass and get my full licence will I automatically be banned due to having more than 6 points or will I still be able to drive?
Shannon - 28-May-18 @ 9:39 PM
Tyler- Your Question:
I was stopped with no insurance in April this year on a provisional license I then passed my test on the 1st of May and on the 2nd got a letter for 6 points I don’t know what will happen can you help?

Our Response:
If the points were added to your provisional licence, you are not allowed any additional points on your licence or it will be revoked if it occurs within 2 years of you passing the test and you still have the 6 points or more on your licence.
YourDrivingLicence - 23-May-18 @ 10:50 AM
Dean - Your Question:
Hi I don't have my provisional yet but I have 12 points from driving with no licence and no insurance. So when I get my provisional could I still take lessons?

Our Response:
Your penalty points and disqualification may be valid for either 3 or 10 years (points remain your licence for an additional year). Any points you receive before applying for you licence will be shown (on the licence).
YourDrivingLicence - 22-May-18 @ 1:00 PM
I was stopped with no insurance in April this year on a provisional license I then passed my test on the 1st of May and on the 2nd got a letter for 6 points I don’t know what will happen can you help?
Tyler - 20-May-18 @ 11:41 PM
Hi I don't have my provisional yet but I have 12 points from driving with no licence and no insurance. So when I get my provisional could I still take lessons?
Dean - 16-May-18 @ 7:48 AM
Hi, I was caught driving without insurance and license last year and lost 6 points, I took the provisional license and the theory and practical test and passed, i got the full license 2 weeks later from DVLA. My question is: Is my license working ? Or I have to take both tests again ?
Luke - 12-May-18 @ 8:32 PM
Danny - Your Question:
Hi my girlfriend got 6 points on her provisional. And has now passed her test. Does this mean it will get revoked straight away? She has to send her full license to get the points. However they were claimed on a provisional licence. Cheers

Our Response:
Any penalty points on a provisional licence that haven’t expired will be carried over to the full licence when the test is passed. The licence will be revoked however, if any further points are added within the first two years of gaining the full licence.
YourDrivingLicence - 27-Apr-18 @ 3:42 PM
Hi my girlfriend got 6 points on her provisional. And has now passed her test.Does this mean it will get revoked straight away? She has to send her full license to get the points. However they were claimed on a provisional licence. Cheers
Danny - 26-Apr-18 @ 2:24 PM
Hi I wonder if I could get some advice? My son was given 6 points on his provisional license from an offence occuring May 2016. He has just passed his driving test in April 2018 so the 6 points will be transferred across to his full license. I was wondering whether these 6 points will expire in May 2019, after 3 years from offense and he will have a clean license so that if he accumulated 3 points for a bald tyre (for example) he wouldn't lose his license? Ive seen written that points are not Active afyer 3 years but stay on your licence for 4 years. By 'not active' im guessing that would mean they don't count at all?? Is that right?
Nicci - 21-Apr-18 @ 3:49 PM
Hi Thank you for the response to my last question. Unfortunately I don't know what the courts said because I wasn't there and he's not speaking to me. I know he's been given 7 points but he had just started work in which he needed his car for (distance and no public transport) is it possible that he could of been given 7 points but retained his license due to work?? thank you again
Janine - 19-Apr-18 @ 8:26 AM
Empty head- Your Question:
Hello I have noticed on another post you replied “ if you have not completed your practical test before your theory runs out ( after 2 years ) , you have to reapply for your provisional. IS THIS TRUE ? Because I have always thought if you don’t complete your practical and your theory runs out , you just reapply to do a theory test again.

Our Response:
Sorry if information elsewhere is misleading...we can't find any information that says this in order to correct but you have to apply for a re-sit your theory test if you do not pass the practical within two years.
YourDrivingLicence - 18-Apr-18 @ 3:19 PM
Hello I have noticed on another post you replied “ if you have not completed your practical test before your theory runs out ( after 2 years ) , you have to reapply for your provisional... IS THIS TRUE ? Because I have always thought if you don’t complete your practical and your theory runs out , you just reapply to do a theory test again.
Empty head - 17-Apr-18 @ 5:54 PM
Janine - Your Question:
My son has been given 7 points for careless driving within his first 2 yrs.can he resit his tests and be able to drive or does he have to wait til they've expired?Thank you in advance

Our Response:
Was he given a specific ban period or is it simply that his licence is revoked because he reached the 6 point level under the New Drivers Act? If the latter, the usual procedure is to apply for a new provisional licence, this will be issued showing the 7 points and he will then be subject to the usual conditions of a provisional licence. He will have to apply for both theory and practical driving tests and pass them before regaining a full licence and when he does, the points will remain on the licence for 3 years - unless otherwise specified by the courts.
YourDrivingLicence - 17-Apr-18 @ 10:14 AM
My son has been given 7 points for careless driving within his first 2 yrs. can he resit his tests and be able to drive or does he have to wait til they've expired? Thank you in advance
Janine - 16-Apr-18 @ 12:15 PM
Mark - Your Question:
My provisional licence expired more than two years ago. I never took my test. I now wish to apply for a new provisional. Am I still able to renew my expired provisional or do I have to apply for a completely new one?

Our Response:
Your provisional licence will last for 10 years (before the photo expires). If you have already taken and passed the theory test, you have two years in which to pass your full test - if you don't, you need to reply for a new theory test and re-sit it.
YourDrivingLicence - 9-Apr-18 @ 3:34 PM
My provisional licence expired more than two years ago. I never took my test. I now wish to apply for a new provisional. Am I still able to renew my expired provisional or do I have to apply for a completely new one?
Mark - 8-Apr-18 @ 4:02 PM
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