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Points on Provisional Licence: Can Full Licence Be Issued?

By: Sally Aquire - Updated: 20 Jul 2019 | comments*Discuss
 
Driving Driving Licence Penalty Points

Q.

I am a driving instructor and have a new pupil who has points on his licence for driving without insurance. Can he still gain his full licence by passing the test or will his licence be revoked? I am some what confused with different information.

(J.T, 28 May 2009)

A.

Many are worried that they will not be issued with their full driving licence after passing their practical driving test if they have already clocked up at least six penalty points beforehand. Is this really the case?

The New Drivers Act

Under the New Drivers Act, if you receive six or more penalty points on your driving licence in the first two years after you pass your practical driving test you will have your licence revoked . This means after a period of disqualification you will have to re-apply for your provisional driving licence, and pass the theory and practical driving tests again.

Points Received Before Passing the Practical Driving Test

Any penalty points that you clock up before passing your first practical driving test will have an effect on your driving licence. However, this does not automatically mean that you will not receive your full driving licence if you have already got six or fewer penalty points on your driving licence at this point.

If you go on to receive an six or more penalty points in the two years after passing your practical driving test, your driving licence will then be taken away from you. Be aware that the penalty points will remain on your driving licence, even though they may not affect the number of points that you are still 'allowed' to receive before losing your practical driving test.

Sitting Your Practical Driving Test Again

If you are re-taking your Practical Driving Test because you have accumulated too many penalty points in the first two years as a new driver, the penalty points that you have already notched up do not carry over as such as you are once again subject to the New Drivers Act rules. They do however remain on your driving licence though until they have expired. Although it varies depending on the motoring offence for which you received the penalty points, this will usually take a minimum of four years. For serious motoring offences, it can take as long as eleven years for the penalty points to expire.

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Caught driving on a provisional and no insurance or l plates and no one supervision what’s my punishment
Freda - 20-Jul-19 @ 9:01 AM
I have 3 pts on provisional license and have to pay €300 fine in sep sure I,ll get 5 pts then that be 8pts altogether will I be banned and if so for how long??
Toffee1000 - 17-Jul-19 @ 2:27 AM
Please tell me, I was driving the car and police stop me and I got provisional license but no insurance, can you tell me what's procedure now
Tanny - 10-Jun-19 @ 9:48 PM
I have Provisional licence and I bought car from Cargiant then the same time I was going to petrol station to buy L plate but before I arrivedPetrol station Police they stop me and they send me £100 & 3 point penalty on my licence so is that fair?
Kiki - 23-May-19 @ 6:28 PM
Ive gotcaught driving without insurance , I ve got a penalty of 300 and 6 points , Can i still drive?
Johnny - 29-Apr-19 @ 8:09 PM
Hello. My full drive l.was revoked under new drivers act(2x3points)in period of 1year for minor offence on both occasions(where was 40mil(i was 49mil). And dvla and the police had send me a letter that i`m allowed to drive for another 5days from the date of the isue of their letters(all i need it was to carry those letters with me for those 5days). But on the very first date of those letters i have got another traffic viollation(same reasons as before, this time on motor way for passing 49mil,in 40mil,manned zone). But since they had revoked my drive licence i have send them their letters instead. And police answer was that (When i`m going to re apply and have a new provisional(later full)drive licence, that they will put those 3points on my new one. But!? i don`t wanna take another test in a near future as i`m no in need for a new drive licence now. SO, My question is: Can someone PLEASE tell me what`s going to be trheir answer, (as they(police) told me that i`ll recive documents from Dvla(as for what is next!?).
A.G. - 12-Apr-19 @ 6:21 PM
I HAVE 8 POINTS ON MY PROVISIONAL WILL THIS MEAN I WONT BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR MY FULL LICENCE?
FRANNY - 4-Apr-19 @ 3:49 PM
Hi I have provisional driving licence. I drove my own car with husband. He had clean licence more than 3 years. Police stop me andI haven't display L plate and not insurance for Lerner driving. But car was insured. Police said i did not stop when they flash the blue lite. So which offences police will put for me.
Anu - 24-Jan-19 @ 1:22 PM
Hope this helps, I drove my friend company car which was fully comp but wasn't aware that the MOT was expired, i pulled over outside my mates house and a police car was passing and stopped, they ran a check on the plate it came up no MOT, I told them i wasn't aware but i was a provisional holder. The officer to me he was giving me a verbal warning and explained to me that because the vehicle has no MOT it voids the insurance so i couldn't drive the vehicle and it was taken to a compound. I told the officer my test was in 3 weeks [which it was] he said good luck and i let it at that. I passed my test first time on a Friday then i received a letter from the officer to plea guilty on several charges but i was only told of 1 so i pleaded guilty to one and sent back the letter to them, i received a letter to go to court, i went and explained the circumstances but [being black, yes I'm drawing the race card cause they didn't even acknowledge i was there] i never stood a chance and was told to reapply for my provisional as i was given 8 points [HARSH] and fined £287 by the court. I wrong my instructor and explained and was told they didn't have to be that harsh, they could have given you a big fine with small points but that wasn't the case.
Tyrone - 5-Jan-19 @ 1:05 AM
i got pulled over by the police i stupidy drove my car without insurance and on a provisional license...what will my penalty be, police said ill be looking at a fine and 3-6 points, iv read that i can still obtain a full license having points on my provisional ..i have my test in a few weeks will i have my license revoked if i pass my practical test
pb1986 - 30-Oct-18 @ 8:00 PM
I got 9 points on my Motor cycle but not a single point on my car driving licence what's going to happened if I will get 12 point ? do I need to wait for some time ? .. or start again from theory test and then do the practical test. Please reply ASAP. Thanks,
Altaf - 13-Oct-18 @ 4:20 PM
Hi. I was stupidly driving with no licence or insurance on a public road. I were stopped by a police officer. I’ve just passed my driving test & now I’ve received 8 points for thee offenceabove. Does that mean i have lost my current driving licence for the offence that happened before i passed my test? because I’ve not had it two years? Or are they provisional points? Please help... confused is an understatement.
Corby24 - 22-Aug-18 @ 7:23 PM
hi My son is 16 in 42 days im applying for his provisional but the thing is hes stupidly got 6 points points on his licence will he still be able to take the cbt and ride a 50cc mopedor will he have it revoked . he got the points befor he is going to be taking his cbt ? thanks
vikster - 20-Aug-18 @ 10:47 PM
Hi i received 8 points on my provisional I was usen a motor vehicle on road public place without third party insurance I received a letter from the court I when guilty straight away I received a fine £295.95 which I'm gona pay off I had my driving test last week I whent I fail my test I booked driving test will I able to pass the test I'm sure some web site on google say 8 points you can go for your test. I not done no dangerous driving I stoped when the police told me told them the truth the car wasn't taken off me because my misses was insured on it she only got 8 point on her license and £200 fine she had her driving license 9 years now she let me drive what will happen
Harry - 29-Jul-18 @ 6:09 PM
My son got caught for speeding doing 52mph in a 30 limit about 4 months ago, this was on a motorbike on a provisional licence.He passed his driving test 6 weeks ago and now has a full licence. He has just received a court summons about the speeding offence. If he gets 6 points does this mean he will lose his licence even though the offence happened on a provisional before he passed his test?
Rob connors - 27-Jul-18 @ 3:10 PM
I've recently been caught speeding on a motorbike (under 125cc as I have a provisional licence only) at 41 mph in a 30, just came off a 40 and didn't clock the change, I've received the penalty notice and it says on the back a minimum of 6 penalty points and a maximum fine of £1000. My sister called up for me though to check as the wording was awful and the woman said £100 fine and 3 points. Is it more because I was doing 41? If so does that mean I'd automatically get 6 points and lose my provisional? If so am I best going to court to try and apologise? I really need my own transport as my mother's disabled and I'm doing a college course I have to get myself to. Thanks in advance!
Bike2000 - 9-Jul-18 @ 1:56 PM
Dom - Your Question:
Held a Bike license just under 2 years, started my driving lessons and got stopped by police (was driving on my own on provisional car license) car was insured in my name, they didn't take my car. I went on to do my test 2 days after and passed 1st time with 2 minors so now the question is will I loose my license? If I do will I loose both car and bike? Or still going to be ok? They did mention that I'm looking at 6 points but wasn't to clear. Thanks

Our Response:
If you are given 6 points on your provisional licence they will be transferred to your full licence and remain valid until they expire. Any further offence in the two years after the pass date will result in revocation of your licence.
YourDrivingLicence - 22-Jun-18 @ 12:48 PM
Held a Bike license just under 2 years, started my driving lessons and got stopped by police (was driving on my own on provisional car license) car was insured in my name, they didn't take my car. I went on to do my test 2 days after and passed 1st time with 2 minors so now the question is will i loose my license? If i do will i loose both car and bike? Or still going to be ok? They did mention that I'm looking at 6 points but wasn't to clear. Thanks
Dom - 21-Jun-18 @ 2:18 PM
Driver2018 - Your Question:
Need advice, held a motorcycle licence for over 4 years gathered 6 points on that just before I passed my driving test, now passed my test have been driving 6 months and think I might have got another 3 points am I going to lose my licence? Or have I got another 6 points before I lose it? Much appreciated

Our Response:
If you obtain 6 points or more points before you have taken your test you can still pass your test and obtain your licence, but if you obtain any more points within 2 years of passing your test, your licence will be revoked.
YourDrivingLicence - 12-Jun-18 @ 1:36 PM
Need advice, held a motorcycle licence for over 4 years gathered 6 points on that just before i passed my driving test, now passed my test have been driving 6 months and think i might have got another 3 points am i going to lose my licence? Or have i got another 6 points before i lose it? Much appreciated
Driver2018 - 9-Jun-18 @ 12:35 PM
Hi I have just been given 8points, I don’t hold a provisional licence I was wondering would I get a ban if I got a provisional and went for my driving licence
Ste - 5-Jun-18 @ 7:34 PM
I already had 5 points and I just got a ticket for going 20 over in a school zone which i think gives me 5 more adding up to 10 points. I have a provisional license and I have court for this ticket in a month, will I be losing my license or what will happen? I have no idea what to expect please help
Enad - 30-May-18 @ 8:16 AM
Shannon- Your Question:
Hi I received 8 points on my provisional licence in July 2017 for no licence or insurance and I've just re-sat my theory and due to do my first practical in 2 weeks. If I pass and get my full licence will I automatically be banned due to having more than 6 points or will I still be able to drive?

Our Response:
Unless otherwise directed by the courts, the general rule is that any penalty points on a provisional licence that haven’t expired will be carried over to the full licence when the test is passed. The licence will be revoked however, if any FURTHER points are added within the first two years of gaining the full licence.
YourDrivingLicence - 29-May-18 @ 3:22 PM
Hi I received 8 points on my provisional licence in July 2017 for no licence or insurance and I've just re-sat my theory and due to do my first practical in 2 weeks. If I pass and get my full licence will I automatically be banned due to having more than 6 points or will I still be able to drive?
Shannon - 28-May-18 @ 9:39 PM
Tyler- Your Question:
I was stopped with no insurance in April this year on a provisional license I then passed my test on the 1st of May and on the 2nd got a letter for 6 points I don’t know what will happen can you help?

Our Response:
If the points were added to your provisional licence, you are not allowed any additional points on your licence or it will be revoked if it occurs within 2 years of you passing the test and you still have the 6 points or more on your licence.
YourDrivingLicence - 23-May-18 @ 10:50 AM
Dean - Your Question:
Hi I don't have my provisional yet but I have 12 points from driving with no licence and no insurance. So when I get my provisional could I still take lessons?

Our Response:
Your penalty points and disqualification may be valid for either 3 or 10 years (points remain your licence for an additional year). Any points you receive before applying for you licence will be shown (on the licence).
YourDrivingLicence - 22-May-18 @ 1:00 PM
I was stopped with no insurance in April this year on a provisional license I then passed my test on the 1st of May and on the 2nd got a letter for 6 points I don’t know what will happen can you help?
Tyler - 20-May-18 @ 11:41 PM
Hi I don't have my provisional yet but I have 12 points from driving with no licence and no insurance. So when I get my provisional could I still take lessons?
Dean - 16-May-18 @ 7:48 AM
Hi, I was caught driving without insurance and license last year and lost 6 points, I took the provisional license and the theory and practical test and passed, i got the full license 2 weeks later from DVLA. My question is: Is my license working ? Or I have to take both tests again ?
Luke - 12-May-18 @ 8:32 PM
Danny - Your Question:
Hi my girlfriend got 6 points on her provisional. And has now passed her test. Does this mean it will get revoked straight away? She has to send her full license to get the points. However they were claimed on a provisional licence. Cheers

Our Response:
Any penalty points on a provisional licence that haven’t expired will be carried over to the full licence when the test is passed. The licence will be revoked however, if any further points are added within the first two years of gaining the full licence.
YourDrivingLicence - 27-Apr-18 @ 3:42 PM
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