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Points on Provisional Licence: Can Full Licence Be Issued?

By: Sally Aquire - Updated: 9 Jun 2018 | comments*Discuss
 
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Q.

I am a driving instructor and have a new pupil who has points on his licence for driving without insurance. Can he still gain his full licence by passing the test or will his licence be revoked? I am some what confused with different information.

(J.T, 28 May 2009)

A.

Many are worried that they will not be issued with their full driving licence after passing their practical driving test if they have already clocked up at least six penalty points beforehand. Is this really the case?

The New Drivers Act

Under the New Drivers Act, if you receive six or more penalty points on your driving licence in the first two years after you pass your practical driving test you will have your licence revoked . This means after a period of disqualification you will have to re-apply for your provisional driving licence, and pass the theory and practical driving tests again.

Points Received Before Passing the Practical Driving Test

Any penalty points that you clock up before passing your first practical driving test will have an effect on your driving licence. However, this does not automatically mean that you will not receive your full driving licence if you have already got six or fewer penalty points on your driving licence at this point.

If you go on to receive an six or more penalty points in the two years after passing your practical driving test, your driving licence will then be taken away from you. Be aware that the penalty points will remain on your driving licence, even though they may not affect the number of points that you are still 'allowed' to receive before losing your practical driving test.

Sitting Your Practical Driving Test Again

If you are re-taking your Practical Driving Test because you have accumulated too many penalty points in the first two years as a new driver, the penalty points that you have already notched up do not carry over as such as you are once again subject to the New Drivers Act rules. They do however remain on your driving licence though until they have expired. Although it varies depending on the motoring offence for which you received the penalty points, this will usually take a minimum of four years. For serious motoring offences, it can take as long as eleven years for the penalty points to expire.

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Driver2018 - Your Question:
Need advice, held a motorcycle licence for over 4 years gathered 6 points on that just before I passed my driving test, now passed my test have been driving 6 months and think I might have got another 3 points am I going to lose my licence? Or have I got another 6 points before I lose it? Much appreciated

Our Response:
If you obtain 6 points or more points before you have taken your test you can still pass your test and obtain your licence, but if you obtain any more points within 2 years of passing your test, your licence will be revoked.
YourDrivingLicence - 12-Jun-18 @ 1:36 PM
Need advice, held a motorcycle licence for over 4 years gathered 6 points on that just before i passed my driving test, now passed my test have been driving 6 months and think i might have got another 3 points am i going to lose my licence? Or have i got another 6 points before i lose it? Much appreciated
Driver2018 - 9-Jun-18 @ 12:35 PM
Hi I have just been given 8points, I don’t hold a provisional licence I was wondering would I get a ban if I got a provisional and went for my driving licence
Ste - 5-Jun-18 @ 7:34 PM
I already had 5 points and I just got a ticket for going 20 over in a school zone which i think gives me 5 more adding up to 10 points. I have a provisional license and I have court for this ticket in a month, will I be losing my license or what will happen? I have no idea what to expect please help
Enad - 30-May-18 @ 8:16 AM
Shannon- Your Question:
Hi I received 8 points on my provisional licence in July 2017 for no licence or insurance and I've just re-sat my theory and due to do my first practical in 2 weeks. If I pass and get my full licence will I automatically be banned due to having more than 6 points or will I still be able to drive?

Our Response:
Unless otherwise directed by the courts, the general rule is that any penalty points on a provisional licence that haven’t expired will be carried over to the full licence when the test is passed. The licence will be revoked however, if any FURTHER points are added within the first two years of gaining the full licence.
YourDrivingLicence - 29-May-18 @ 3:22 PM
Hi I received 8 points on my provisional licence in July 2017 for no licence or insurance and I've just re-sat my theory and due to do my first practical in 2 weeks. If I pass and get my full licence will I automatically be banned due to having more than 6 points or will I still be able to drive?
Shannon - 28-May-18 @ 9:39 PM
Tyler- Your Question:
I was stopped with no insurance in April this year on a provisional license I then passed my test on the 1st of May and on the 2nd got a letter for 6 points I don’t know what will happen can you help?

Our Response:
If the points were added to your provisional licence, you are not allowed any additional points on your licence or it will be revoked if it occurs within 2 years of you passing the test and you still have the 6 points or more on your licence.
YourDrivingLicence - 23-May-18 @ 10:50 AM
Dean - Your Question:
Hi I don't have my provisional yet but I have 12 points from driving with no licence and no insurance. So when I get my provisional could I still take lessons?

Our Response:
Your penalty points and disqualification may be valid for either 3 or 10 years (points remain your licence for an additional year). Any points you receive before applying for you licence will be shown (on the licence).
YourDrivingLicence - 22-May-18 @ 1:00 PM
I was stopped with no insurance in April this year on a provisional license I then passed my test on the 1st of May and on the 2nd got a letter for 6 points I don’t know what will happen can you help?
Tyler - 20-May-18 @ 11:41 PM
Hi I don't have my provisional yet but I have 12 points from driving with no licence and no insurance. So when I get my provisional could I still take lessons?
Dean - 16-May-18 @ 7:48 AM
Hi, I was caught driving without insurance and license last year and lost 6 points, I took the provisional license and the theory and practical test and passed, i got the full license 2 weeks later from DVLA. My question is: Is my license working ? Or I have to take both tests again ?
Luke - 12-May-18 @ 8:32 PM
Danny - Your Question:
Hi my girlfriend got 6 points on her provisional. And has now passed her test. Does this mean it will get revoked straight away? She has to send her full license to get the points. However they were claimed on a provisional licence. Cheers

Our Response:
Any penalty points on a provisional licence that haven’t expired will be carried over to the full licence when the test is passed. The licence will be revoked however, if any further points are added within the first two years of gaining the full licence.
YourDrivingLicence - 27-Apr-18 @ 3:42 PM
Hi my girlfriend got 6 points on her provisional. And has now passed her test.Does this mean it will get revoked straight away? She has to send her full license to get the points. However they were claimed on a provisional licence. Cheers
Danny - 26-Apr-18 @ 2:24 PM
Hi I wonder if I could get some advice? My son was given 6 points on his provisional license from an offence occuring May 2016. He has just passed his driving test in April 2018 so the 6 points will be transferred across to his full license. I was wondering whether these 6 points will expire in May 2019, after 3 years from offense and he will have a clean license so that if he accumulated 3 points for a bald tyre (for example) he wouldn't lose his license? Ive seen written that points are not Active afyer 3 years but stay on your licence for 4 years. By 'not active' im guessing that would mean they don't count at all?? Is that right?
Nicci - 21-Apr-18 @ 3:49 PM
Hi Thank you for the response to my last question. Unfortunately I don't know what the courts said because I wasn't there and he's not speaking to me. I know he's been given 7 points but he had just started work in which he needed his car for (distance and no public transport) is it possible that he could of been given 7 points but retained his license due to work?? thank you again
Janine - 19-Apr-18 @ 8:26 AM
Empty head- Your Question:
Hello I have noticed on another post you replied “ if you have not completed your practical test before your theory runs out ( after 2 years ) , you have to reapply for your provisional. IS THIS TRUE ? Because I have always thought if you don’t complete your practical and your theory runs out , you just reapply to do a theory test again.

Our Response:
Sorry if information elsewhere is misleading...we can't find any information that says this in order to correct but you have to apply for a re-sit your theory test if you do not pass the practical within two years.
YourDrivingLicence - 18-Apr-18 @ 3:19 PM
Hello I have noticed on another post you replied “ if you have not completed your practical test before your theory runs out ( after 2 years ) , you have to reapply for your provisional... IS THIS TRUE ? Because I have always thought if you don’t complete your practical and your theory runs out , you just reapply to do a theory test again.
Empty head - 17-Apr-18 @ 5:54 PM
Janine - Your Question:
My son has been given 7 points for careless driving within his first 2 yrs.can he resit his tests and be able to drive or does he have to wait til they've expired?Thank you in advance

Our Response:
Was he given a specific ban period or is it simply that his licence is revoked because he reached the 6 point level under the New Drivers Act? If the latter, the usual procedure is to apply for a new provisional licence, this will be issued showing the 7 points and he will then be subject to the usual conditions of a provisional licence. He will have to apply for both theory and practical driving tests and pass them before regaining a full licence and when he does, the points will remain on the licence for 3 years - unless otherwise specified by the courts.
YourDrivingLicence - 17-Apr-18 @ 10:14 AM
My son has been given 7 points for careless driving within his first 2 yrs. can he resit his tests and be able to drive or does he have to wait til they've expired? Thank you in advance
Janine - 16-Apr-18 @ 12:15 PM
Mark - Your Question:
My provisional licence expired more than two years ago. I never took my test. I now wish to apply for a new provisional. Am I still able to renew my expired provisional or do I have to apply for a completely new one?

Our Response:
Your provisional licence will last for 10 years (before the photo expires). If you have already taken and passed the theory test, you have two years in which to pass your full test - if you don't, you need to reply for a new theory test and re-sit it.
YourDrivingLicence - 9-Apr-18 @ 3:34 PM
My provisional licence expired more than two years ago. I never took my test. I now wish to apply for a new provisional. Am I still able to renew my expired provisional or do I have to apply for a completely new one?
Mark - 8-Apr-18 @ 4:02 PM
Benji- Your Question:
I have 3 points on my bike licence which are due to come off in a couple of months I've just recently passed my car test and got caught going through a red light I will be getting points on licence but will I loose my licence

Our Response:
The bike licence and car licence are the same, so your points will total 6 unless you're offered a driver awareness course.
YourDrivingLicence - 30-Jan-18 @ 3:01 PM
I have 3 points on my bike licence which are due to come off in a couple of months I've just recently passed my car test and got caught going through a red light i will be getting points on licence but will I loose my licence
Benji - 29-Jan-18 @ 11:19 AM
my provisional driving licence has expired
no - 3-Jun-17 @ 12:23 AM
@saliney. Using a vehicle uninsured against third party risks brings a penalty of 6 to 8 points and driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence incurs a penalty of 3 to 6. With 6 points or more in the provisional period you are likely to lose your licence. Any penalty points on your provisional licence are carried over to your full licence when you pass your test.
YourDrivingLicence - 5-Mar-15 @ 2:22 PM
i have a provisional licence and due to sit my driving test next week. i was stopped by police for driving unsupervised and received my court summons yesterday and there are 2 charges 1. driving unsupervised 2. no insurance as my insurance did not cover me driving unsupervised. how many penalty points will i receive and will i get banned as soon as i have got full licence
slainey - 3-Mar-15 @ 7:09 AM
@AJ. Yes it helps people understand how the system works, but we hope that there are not that many people with so many points on their provisional licences out there!
YourDrivingLicence - 23-Oct-14 @ 9:52 AM
My own experience: 3 different situation: 1. I had 9 points on my provisional license ( i know its crazy), i passed my test and issued full uk license, i cant get even 1 point on my license or it will be revoked 2. my gf had 3 points on her provisional license, passed her test, and she had to be really careful so the point will not accumulate to 6 ( 3 from provisional included) 3. i was convicted in court for the offence i committed from when im holding provisional license, the license will not be revoked as the date of offence is what matters, it will go back to 1st situation, where even 1 point will get your license revoked Hope this helps=)
AJ - 22-Oct-14 @ 12:29 PM
This paragraph from the article gives you your answer
"If you are re-taking your Practical Driving Test because you have accumulated too many penalty points in the first two years as a new driver, the penalty points that you have already notched up do not carry over as such as you are once again subject to the New Drivers Act rules. They do however remain on your driving licence though until they have expired. Although it varies depending on the motoring offence for which you received the penalty points, this will usually take a minimum of four years. For serious motoring offences, it can take as long as eleven years for the penalty points to expire."
YourDrivingLicence - 10-Sep-14 @ 12:16 PM
Hello I got 6 points on my provisional licence 8 months ago and I want to book my test if I pass my test would my license get taken back off me because of the 6 points?
mike - 8-Sep-14 @ 2:14 AM
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